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#801 2011-07-08 05:22:42

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Re: Is this cool with you?

Hi 123ronnie321,

Cool, it's really a nice program!

I haven't noticed that shape in my cup either. Maybe we need a very wide cup!


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#802 2011-07-08 05:32:28

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Re: Is this cool with you?

They are supposed to be 4.0 and a 3D version out soon.


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If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
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#803 2011-07-08 06:10:07

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Re: Is this cool with you?

A 3D version will make it much better!
We can visualize some real world problems, which is difficult to do with pencil and paper.


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#804 2011-07-08 06:54:39

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Re: Is this cool with you?

I downloaded the 4.0 beta. Have not installed it yet. The list of features really looks good.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#805 2011-07-08 15:03:27

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Re: Is this cool with you?

Yes. Many new commands added, can do much of statistics also!


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#806 2011-07-08 15:09:45

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Re: Is this cool with you?

Did you install it?


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
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#807 2011-07-08 17:56:04

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Re: Is this cool with you?

Not yet. Did you?

Update-
I tried version 3.9.278, It's *awesome*! Good improvements...
Admin had written yesterday that 3.9.279 allows us to drag implicit curves also. It wasn't there for download yet.

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#808 2011-07-08 19:22:58

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Re: Is this cool with you?

Hi gAr;

Thanks for telling me. I downloaded 3.9.278 but I have not put it in yet.

I read about the improvements  when I saw that some people were beta testing 4 and 3D. But it was not for ready for general use.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#809 2011-07-08 20:42:03

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Re: Is this cool with you?

Hi bobbym,

I ran it directly, since it's a jar file, installation was not necessary.
But a little surprised since it should run on any OS, why have they kept separate downloads?

I couldn't find a download for 3D version, is it available?


"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

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#810 2011-07-08 21:40:28

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Re: Is this cool with you?

Hi gAr;

I have not seen it as a jar file. That is correct as a jar file any computer with the Java Runtime Environment should be able to run it.

I could not find the download for the 3D version but I was on a site where they were discussing it.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#811 2011-07-08 21:52:57

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Re: Is this cool with you?

Hi,

Okay.
I saw that for 3D version, installers are available for linux as rpm files.

Did you try 3.9.278?


"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

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#812 2011-07-08 22:00:25

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Re: Is this cool with you?

Hi gAr;

Not yet. I am busy working on another problem. As soon as I have some answer to that one I will.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#813 2011-07-08 22:01:53

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Re: Is this cool with you?

Okay.


"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

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#814 2011-07-08 22:11:04

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Re: Is this cool with you?

Hi;

Luckily I think the two problems are related. It looks like the new geo might be a capable implicit function grapher. And that is what the other person needs!


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#815 2011-07-08 22:16:43

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Re: Is this cool with you?

I tried trigonometric functions in the implicit form, doesn't plot!


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"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

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#816 2011-07-08 22:26:39

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Re: Is this cool with you?

I was afraid of that. That is too bad.

When you start geo, what jar file do you run?


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#817 2011-07-08 22:51:38

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Re: Is this cool with you?

Okay.

java -jar geogebra.jar

Probability and curve fittings are available, that's nice.


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"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

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#818 2011-07-08 22:53:51

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Also, points and shapes are more dynamic. In earlier versions many points and polygons were fixed.

For instance if a point got drawn on the x or y axis I could not get it off of that, but now there is an attach/detach command.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#819 2011-07-09 01:01:05

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Re: Is this cool with you?

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#820 2011-07-09 02:03:35

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Re: Is this cool with you?

Hi soroban,

Good one!


Hi bobbym,

Got the geogebra 3D running!
But 3D view takes 90% CPU even when it's left idle.

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"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

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#821 2011-07-09 04:30:39

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Re: Is this cool with you?

Hi gAr;

Got the geogebra 3D running!
But 3D view takes 90% CPU even when it's left idle.

I guess we ought to be grateful they left us with 10%. That is obviously a bug.

Hi soroban;

I did not know that limit could be done like that! Thanks for providing that!


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#822 2011-07-09 04:49:01

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Re: Is this cool with you?

Hi bobbym,

But overall, the graphics is neat.
Once 3D is done, it'll be the coolest interactive geometry software on earth!


"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

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#823 2011-07-09 04:50:55

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Re: Is this cool with you?

Hi;

I hope so. Where did you download it from?


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#824 2011-07-09 05:09:24

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Re: Is this cool with you?

Hi,

I downloaded from
http://download.opensuse.org/repositori … eimdall78/
All the rpms contain the same jar files I think. Just extract it to a directory.

To run 5 beta, I installed
antlr (2.7.7-16ubuntu1)
libantlr-java (2.7.7-16ubuntu1)
libjogl-java (1.1.1+dak1-9)
libjogl-jni (1.1.1+dak1-9)
libjava3d-java (1.5.2+dfsg-5)
libjava3d-jni (1.5.2+dfsg-5)
libvecmath-java (1.5.2-2)


"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense"  - Buddha?

"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."

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#825 2011-07-09 05:16:57

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Re: Is this cool with you?

Hi;

Okay thanks! When I get around to putting Ubuntu 10.10 in...

Concerning Geogebra 4.0 b, how come no CAS has incorporated a similar idea inside their package?  This idea of interactive geometry is really a powerful, experimental tool.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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