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#76 Re: Help Me ! » Complex numbers » 2009-02-20 19:59:47

aha ok roll
thats weird. Website update? cool

#77 Re: Help Me ! » Complex numbers » 2009-02-20 11:33:45

Yeah, I misread and thought (z+1)/(z-1) should be real, then I failed to edit and accidently posted a new post instead, so I deleted my first post, therefore no "edit" tongue

#78 Re: Help Me ! » Complex numbers » 2009-02-20 01:48:19

let w=z-1. then:
(z+1)/(z-1)=(w+2)/w=1+2/w=1+2w*/|w|. If this is imaginary, 2Re(w)/|w|=-1. But Re(w)/|w| is equal to Cos(Arg(w)).

#79 This is Cool » Sum 1/(n^2+x^2) » 2009-02-18 08:16:56

Kurre
Replies: 0

Inspired by Eulers "proof" of Zeta(2)=pi^2/6, I came up with the following:
Factoring Sinz just as Euler did as a product of the roots:


Using conjugate rule:

Now, differentiating and using product rule yields:

Dividing by Sinz yields:

or as:

letting z=pi*x and multiplying by pi^2 we obtain:

Cool eh? big_smile
We could also let x=iw, which would reduce to:

Plugging the sum into mathematica immediately gives the answer, so it wasnt really anything new, only a brutal math of rigorous mathematics;)
But still kind of cool tongue

and yeah, taking the limit as z->0, we obtain zeta(2)=pi^2/6

#80 Re: Help Me ! » commutitive group » 2009-01-24 06:55:01

GemmaJ1988 wrote:

i have the following question to solve:
suppose G is a group with the property


for all x in G, prove that for all

in G, G is commutitive.

so far ive got:


so

is this enough to show there commutative?

You are wrong at the underlined equation. For distinct x and y we dont have x*y=e. Only x*x=e and y*y=e.

To prove that G is commutative, with two elements x and y start with x*y, and try to arrive at y*x.
edit: Altough I see now, that a direct way from xy to yx seems hard to find, theres another way to do it. Hint: Since G is a group, we know that G is closed under multiplication. Thus xy is in G and yx is in G.

#81 Re: Help Me ! » (1+i)^i » 2009-01-22 09:54:20

I guess writing (1+i) in exponential form would help a lot.

#83 Re: Help Me ! » combinatorial analysis problem » 2009-01-18 02:12:21

Hint: Every rectangle is uniquely determined by choosing 2 row lines and 2 column lines.

#84 Re: Help Me ! » Really, really quick » 2009-01-17 01:23:46

Daniel123 wrote:
Ricky wrote:

Just wanted to note that stating the sum converges because 1/n^2 does is rigorous.

Ahh right, okay. I thought I might have to write out some |a_n| < |b_n| things mentioned on that wiki page.

Thanks smile

yea but obv 0<1/(1+n^2)<1/n^2 so |a_n|<|b_n| for all n. Imo you should do this calculation to show that the sum converges, not just state it without motivation.

#85 Re: Help Me ! » Prove » 2009-01-15 05:33:41

JaneFairfax wrote:


No!
is not positive in the interval
. shame

I didnt say that. shame
Its positive in the interval ]-pi,-pi/2[.

#86 Re: Help Me ! » Prove » 2009-01-15 01:20:40

JaneFairfax wrote:

Great work, Kurre! up

Just a little point:

Kurre wrote:

Then we have 0<A,B,C<pi/2 (because of arctans range).

is not imposed by the arctan range. Rather we take
to be all acute angles because
must be positive.

I meant that -pi/2<A,B,C<pi/2 is imposed by arctans range, then A,B,C>0 is because x,y,z>0.

But we must be careful if we just let A=arctanx, B=arctany, C=arctanz, x=tanA, y=tanB, z=tanC and consider A,B,C<pi, tanA,tanB,tanC>0 and forgets that we started with arctan and only use the positivity of x,y,z. Because now for example angles between -pi/2 and -pi would satisfies these inequalities since tan is positive in theat interval, so these problems are not completely equivalent. smile

#87 Re: Help Me ! » Prove » 2009-01-15 00:49:05

I think I got it:
Let x=tanA, y=tanB, z=TanC. Then we have 0<A,B,C<pi/2 (because of arctans range). Everything now follows from the inequality:


since 0<A+B+C<pi



Since 0<A,B,C<pi/2 we have CosACosBCosC>0, so dividing by CosACosBCosC doesnt change the inequality direction, which yields:

wink

#88 Re: Help Me ! » x^n + y^n = 1 » 2008-12-30 02:45:43

random_fruit wrote:

I looked at the Co-tangent observations made by Kurre (above) but couldn't follow his (or, her) step from
(y*CotA)^n+y^n=1
to
s^n(A)=y=1/(Cot^nA+1)
So thanks for the reply but sorry I didn't "get" it.

First, we must define the new Sine and Cosine. The definition for the ordinary sin(x) and cos(x) are defined (the geometric definitions, some books start by defining them as their infinite series) as:
Cos(a) is the x coordinate of a point (x,y) on the unit circle, where a is the angle from the x axis in the positive direction. See following link for a better explanation:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sine#Unit-circle_definitions

So I thought we could define the new "Cosine" and "Sine" in a similar way. Let c(a) be the new Cosine function, and s(a) be the new Sine function, which will be the x respectively y coordinate for a point (x,y)=(c(a),s(a)) lying on our "new unit circle", defined by |x|^n+|y|^n=1, and a is the same angle as in the definition above. If n=2, we get the functions Cos(a) and Sin(a), as expected. Now we want a good expression for this, and my first thought was to try to describe it with the ordinary trigonometric functions. If we draw a right angle triangle, where the hypotenuse is from the origin to a point on the "unit circle". The attached picture shows an example for n=3. Now x and y are related as |x|^n+|y|^n=1, and y/x=tan(a). Solving this system of equations for x=c(a) in the following way yields:
y=tan(a)*x.
substituting into |x|^n+|y|^n=1:
|x|^n+|tan(a)*x|^n=1
|x|^n+|tan(a)|^n*|x|^n=1
|x|^n*(1+|tan(a)|^n)=1
x=c(a)=±1/(1+|tan(a)|^n)^(1/n)
where the ± sign is determined from the quadrant the point is in. First and fourth quadrant yields +, second and third yields -. Similar for y=s(a).

Hopefully this made my post clearer

edit: a better formula would probably be:
c(a)=±|Cos(a)|/(|Cos(a)|^n+|Sin(a)|^n)^(1/n)
since it will be defined for a=pi/2+pi*k, which is obtained by multiplying nominater and denominator by |Cos(a)|
edit2: heck, now we doesnt even need the ± sign, since |Cos(a)| is multiplied by a ± depending on which quadrant the point is in by the same rule as c(a), so i think the formula ends at:


tongue

#89 Re: Help Me ! » Calculating exact values for cos(x) » 2008-12-28 05:55:51

36°=pi/5 radians. For example you could proceed like this:
Sin(pi/5)=Sin(pi-pi/5)=Sin(4pi/5)=2Sin(2pi/5)Cos(2Pi/5)=4Cos(pi/5)Sin(pi/5)(2Cos(Pi/5)-1)
-->
8x^3-4x-1=0, where x=cos(pi/5)
We can guess one root to be -1/2 so Factoring yields:
8x^3-4x-1=2(x+1/2)(4x^2-2x-1)=0
but obviously cos(pi/5)≠-1/2, so Cos(pi/5) is a solution to
4x^2-2x-1, which has the solutions:
x=(1±√5)/4, but Cos(pi/5)>0, so:
Cos(pi/5)=(1+√5)/4
*I misread and thought Cos(pi/5) was what we were looking for, but we can now for example use half angle formulas and such to get Cos(18°)=Cos(pi/10). there may be quicker and more direct methods though

#90 Re: Help Me ! » x^n + y^n = 1 » 2008-12-26 09:03:24

We could maybe define a new type of sine function, s(A), as the y-component of a point (x,y) satisfying x^n+y^n=1, and same with the new Cosine function, c(A), as the x-component (A being the orinary angle in radians, altough this doesnt have the same "geometric intrepetation" in our "new unit circle"). With n=2 we get the ordinary Sine and Cosine. Now consider a point p=  (x,y)=(c(A),s(A)) satisfying x^n+y^n=1. we have that x=CotA*y, which yields:
(y*CotA)^n+y^n=1
s^n(A)=y=1/(Cot^nA+1)
and similary we get:
c^n(A)=1/(Tan^nA+1)
altough im not sure how to define the "unit circle", since if n is odd, we will not have any symetry and particulary no solutions for x,y<0. Maybe we should consider the equation |x|^n+|y|^n=1 instead, maybe makes more sense.
Edit: after plotting in mathematica, I see that we obviously must consider |x|^n+|y|^n=1, otherwise we get some ridiculous function. This would give:


#91 Re: Help Me ! » Vector proof » 2008-12-09 23:08:01

The left hand side (after squaring) is equal to a^2+2ac+c^2=a^2+c^2, and the right hand side is equal to a^2-2ac+c^2=a^2+c^2. so yes, it holds.

#92 Re: Help Me ! » Chebyshev polynomials » 2008-12-06 07:14:05

Cos2x+Cos3x=0
Cos2x=-Cos3x
Cos2x=Cos(pi-3x)
1)2x=3x-pi->x=pi->cosx=-1
2)2x=pi-3x->x=pi/5
looks like something is wrong with your equation...

#93 Re: Help Me ! » complex plane » 2008-12-06 03:37:05

uhm what the hell is x?`??+

#94 Re: Help Me ! » Solve the equation » 2008-12-01 08:00:05

x=1 is one solution, and that it is the only one can be realized by investigating the derivative.

#95 Re: Help Me ! » Finding sin(10) » 2008-11-30 08:14:51

Tbh, that formula does not seem to be any progress at all, since


Which after simplifying is just sin(pi/18).

#96 Re: Help Me ! » Double Summation » 2008-11-03 06:03:13

I havent fully read your solution, but a hint for another solution would be to assume WLOG that

to get rid of the absolute values, then count how many x_j there are for each j. After that its kind of straight forward.

(I get the same result as you btw, ~half will be 0, ~half will be 1 to get maximum)

#97 Re: Help Me ! » Trigonometric Identities problem » 2008-10-21 03:13:14

a/2=2*a/4
use the double angle formulas:
sin2x=2cosxsinx
cos2x=cos^2x-sin^2x=2cos^2x-1=1-2sin^2x

#98 Re: This is Cool » ∞+½=½ » 2008-10-12 09:22:26

http://www3.hi.is/~pjo1/division%20by%20zero.jpg

http://halshop.files.wordpress.com/2007/03/phpw9jvl0pm.jpg

#99 Re: Help Me ! » Another matrices question » 2008-10-12 03:55:27


any point on the line has the form (x,2x), so I would just substitute y with 2x in the above equation giving:

x'=3x+1
y'=8x+1

substituting x with (x'-1)/3 gives
y'=8(x'-1)/3+1=8x'/3-5/3

#100 Re: Help Me ! » Not getting it.. » 2008-10-11 06:10:06

hint: let a+b=x and take the squares and cubes of it to get two equations, and use these equations to solve for x.

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