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#26 Re: Help Me ! » complex integration » 2009-05-20 21:14:33

what is the path of integration? 0 to 1 along the real line?
You cant use cauchys integral formula directly since Im(z) is not an analytic function. Altough, if the path of integration is what i just wrote, Im(z) will be zero so the integral must be zero.
if your task is to use cauchys integral formula, you can try write it as:


but im still not sure what you mean by (0;1). for cauchys integral formula to apply you need a loop.

#27 Re: Help Me ! » Proof by Induction? » 2009-05-20 05:43:20

no, a value for a polynomial can be a perfect square, without the polynomial being a perfect square of a polynomial...

#29 Re: Help Me ! » prime number problem » 2009-05-18 20:38:55

I did not write that q must be prime

#30 Help Me ! » Divergence problem » 2009-05-17 08:13:49

Kurre
Replies: 0

Another problem me and some others didnt manage.

Show that

diverges for all real t.

After using summation by parts, i (think) i can get it down to showing that

is of magnitude k, but im not even sure thats correct...

please give hints and not complete answer

#32 Help Me ! » prime number problem » 2009-05-16 22:26:45

Kurre
Replies: 4

Let p be a prime. Prove that if q|2^p-1, then p|q-1.

Please dont give full answer, only hints.

#33 Re: Exercises » Kurre's Exercises » 2009-05-16 02:48:54

#14
let

be the n roots of unity. For which n and m does it hold that:
?

#34 Re: Exercises » Kurre's Exercises » 2009-05-15 23:15:07

JaneFairfax wrote:

can be generalized. For each integer
,
divides the determinant of a
matrix in which each positive integer less than and coprime with
appears exactly once in each row and in each column.

Yea I realized that when trying to sleep yesterday tongue
edit: you dont need exactly once in the columns also

#35 Re: Help Me ! » Triangles center of mass at centroid » 2009-05-15 09:59:12

Okey here is my proof:
Given triangle ABC, let D, M, N be midpoints of BC, AC, AB respectively (see picture). Insert a coordinate system along the median AD. We want to find the y component (perpendicular to AD) of the center of mass R for the triangle, which we call d. R will be the weighted sum (definition of center of mass) of the locations of the following three pieces: parallellogram ANDM, triangle BND, triangle DMC. The mass of ABC, BND, DMC and ANDM are m, m', m'' and m''' respectively.

But the center of mass of ANDM will lie on AD (can be seen by for example that ADN is congruent to DAM, so the y components will cancel), so we can skip that piece.

Furthermore, BND is congruent to DMC which both are similar to BAC, with a scaling factor of 1/2. Thus the distance to the center of masses R' and R'' for BND and DMC are a distance d/2 from their medians NE and MF (see picture). Also, since the areas for the triangles ADC and ABD are equal and they have the same base AD, the heights with base AD are equal, and equal h. Since the medians NE and EF are 1/2 of the height h away from AD, they have y components h/2 and -h/2. Also since BND and MDC are scaled by a factor 1/2, their areas (masses) are scaled by a factor 1/4, so m'=m''=m/4.



Now when im done explaining the picture we can come to the main part of the proof. Using the definition of center of mass one obtains (R''' being the location of the center of mass of ANDM):


We are only interested in the y components, and as noted earlier the parallellogram will not contribute, so we get:

Thus the center of mass lies on the median AD, and similar argument for the other medians shows that the center of mass is on all medians, and thus must be on the intersection.

cool eh? smile

#36 Re: Exercises » Kurre's Exercises » 2009-05-15 09:15:43

mathsyperson wrote:

#13 is false for p=2.

true, forgot about that. Fixed! smile

#37 Re: Exercises » Kurre's Exercises » 2009-05-15 08:26:45

#13 Let M be a (p-1)x(p-1) matrix where p is an odd prime number and each row has each element from {1,2,3,...,p-2,p-1} exactly once. Prove that p|det(M)

#38 Re: Exercises » Kurre's Exercises » 2009-05-15 08:12:30

bobbym wrote:

Hi Kurre;

  I have been working very hard on your #7. I will continue to work on it, but in case I don't get there after a couple of weeks more. I would very much like to see your method.

Im really glad to hear you are working on it smile

If you want, I can post my solution.

#39 Re: Puzzles and Games » Type the username above you - WITH YOUR ELBOW! » 2009-05-12 03:17:38

devanté

darn wrong thing over the e sad
(i typed that really slow)

#40 Re: Help Me ! » Triangles center of mass at centroid » 2009-05-11 08:19:39

whatismath wrote:

If we define the CM as the point that balance a physical uniform triangular plate,
then the argument of symmetry is already a good one for me:
the median AD (D is the midpoint of BC) balances the plate, so does the median
BE (E is the midpoint of AC).
Consider the (vector) moment rxF of the plate (at CM)
about the intersection M of AD and BC. Since AD and BC do not overlap, we can resolve
r into components along AD and BC, the same on rxF which become a sum of zero vectors.
So r must be the zero vector else there exist positions r not paralell to F (and r non-zero).

I dont get it. The bolded text is the difficult part of the proof, and you straight away assume its true? or do you prove it in the next part?

whatismath wrote:

If we define the CM most fundamentally as a (2-D) integral (limit of Riemann sums),


I believe there is no simple proof. Using the linear equations of the sides of the
triangle already applied the Fundamental Theorem of Calculus.
Actually, the x- and y- directions in the definition of CM need not be perpendicular,
just any two non-overlapping lines work. Take AD and BE. Consider the definition
as Riemann sums, given any partition of
, we can produce
a finer partition by subdividing the two sub-partitions on both sides of AD (one side
imposed its mirror image parallel to BE on the other side of AD) by symmetry.
So the Riemann sum of the resulting partition is 0 along BE, and therefore so is
.
Similarly

Hence the CM lies on AD and BE, i.e. CM is the centroid.

Sorry for the long wind. Thanks for reading.

Im not sure I follow you, but if you use the same argument as my friends lecturer its not completely correct (ie we divide the triangle into a lot of trapezoids, and in the limit the center of mass of each trapezoid is in the middle, thus the cm of the triangle is on the median). this does not hold, consider for example a horseshoe. Apllying this argument there would show that the center of mass is in the horseshoe, which is obviously not correct.

I have a kind of cool proof now only using vectors, maybe I can post it tomorrow.

#41 Re: Exercises » Kurre's Exercises » 2009-05-08 00:15:18

#12
Let n be an integer with m prime factors (not necessarily distinct). suppose d|n and define

where
and
are the multiplicities for p in the prime factorization for n and d respectively. Show that:

and determine when equality occurs.

#42 Re: Exercises » Kurre's Exercises » 2009-05-07 05:18:05

#11 Find all functions from the positive rational numbers to the positive rational numbers satisfying:


#43 Re: Exercises » Kurre's Exercises » 2009-05-06 09:07:40

uhm okey that was much nicer than what I did neutral smile

#44 Re: Exercises » Kurre's Exercises » 2009-05-06 08:52:51

#10 let f be a function from the natural numbers to the natural numbers satisfying

if n-1>m>0. Find the least possible value of f(2009) and f(2011)

#47 Re: Exercises » Kurre's Exercises » 2009-05-04 10:30:08

Thanks! But I still cant find a field where to edit the title? i know what u mean, i have seen it before. I thought it had been too long since i created the topic..

#48 Re: Exercises » Kurre's Exercises » 2009-05-04 06:45:12

Well I would like to change the topic to "kurres exercises" or something, but I cant, so here comes a few more that are not related to functional equations.

#7 Let


Find
expressed in A

#8 Let H be a subgroup of G. prove that the following statements are equivalent:
a) H is a normal subgroup
b) for all a,b in G,

if and only if

#9 Solve the following equation in primes p,q,r:

#49 Re: Help Me ! » Triangles center of mass at centroid » 2009-04-28 05:19:57

luca-deltodesco wrote:

which could also be seen as an argument for why the 3 medians MUST all intersect at a common point, because the triangle must have a single centre of mass tongue

Yea I also realized that. Its a really cool result tongue

mathsyperson wrote:

How about a symmetry argument?
For any median, the centre of mass must lie somewhere on it, and so it must be at the intersection of them all.

yes, if we can prove that it actually lie on one median. The masses of the two triangles that the median dividies the larger triangle obviously has the same mass, but that does not imply that the center of mass for the triangle is at the median. We need to prove that the distance from the median the the two center of masses for the smaller triangles are equal. That is relatively easy to do with the integral definition (its "obvious" in a sense that the mass after distance x m(x) are equal on both sides since the sides are both straight lines) but....I dont like it tongue
Basically I made this thread because a friend told me that they proved this really easy by using vectors during a lecture, but today he showed the argument and it was in fact incorrect tongue So maybe there is no simple method that I have missed...woho cool

#50 Help Me ! » Triangles center of mass at centroid » 2009-04-27 07:33:47

Kurre
Replies: 6

Does anyone have a good proof that the center of mass for a triangle is at the centroid? (the intersection of the medians)
I have managed to prove it in 3 slightly different ways, but I dont like them. What I wonder is if there is some elegant, simple proof using just some geometry/vectors that I have missed?

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