Math Is Fun Forum

Hi Bobby,

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Do you mean that it wasn't close to the answer to the original problem before that additional constraint?

Oops! Wonder where I went wrong. Back to the drawing board! (later)

Hey! Did you add "a,b,c,d,e,f < 11" later, Bobby? Maybe I missed seeing that... (I'll have to look at that later).

Hi Bobby,

For Jane, I think your only hope is to work out her sleep pattern and to post your puzzle just after she's gone to bed.

For me, just post anything that needs maths knowledge above year 4 high school level...but there's also a good chance that I've forgotten what I learnt up to that stage too.

Hi 1a2b3c2212 & quittyqat,

Could you give an example (maybe upload a graphic) of what you are trying to do?

Here's a link that might help: Powerpoint diagrams in Word

It's more restrictive than doing the same thing in the Open Office Draw/Writer combination, but may be an option if you have to stay in Word. You could also create the drawing in Draw and copy it into Word (ie, if Word can't draw what you want), from which you will have some limited editing options.

Most of what can be done in Paint can be done in Draw and Word.

It's very easy to create parallel lines in Word: draw one (optionally set it to the angle you want via Format AutoShape/Size/Rotate), then copy/paste it. You can also align them together, or with other objects, by using the Drawing toolbar's aligning tools. If you've activated "Drawing Grid/Object Snapping/Snap objects to other objects", the object you move will snap to other objects.

These features, and many more, are accessed from the Drawing toolbar, which in v2007 opens automatically when you draw a shape, and in older versions, such as XP or 2003, opens via View/Toolbars/Drawing.

I would presume so, 1a2b3c2212, but I don't know for sure. I have XP Home and both run fine together (eg, M$ Word & OOo Draw open at the same time so I can copy/paste from one to the other).

Hi 1a2b3c2212,

I have OOo v3.0.1, which is a 142MB file. It installed as a 350MB program.

I've never imported geometrical shapes into Word (I have v2007), but I use its drawing tools frequently and find them easy, intuitive and accurate for my type of use (eg, drawing a large variety of shapes to size, rotating them to a specified angle, aligning them with other objects, choosing fill and line colour and weight, distributing them evenly vertically and horizontally...and there are many, many other drawing features too).

I've not used OOo for drawing because I'm too comfortable with Word, but from a quick look at it tonight it seems to do similar. The two programs will have their individual strengths and weaknesses, no doubt.

A few minutes ago I used copy/paste to import something into Word that I drew in ProgeSoft (a CAD program), but Word would only accept it as a picture. ie, I couldn't separate the drawing components into individual editable shapes. Right-clicking on the picture and selecting 'Edit' opened ProgeSoft, so I could do the editing there if I wanted to...but not in Word itself.

But I could edit in OOo Draw! Draw has a 'Break' function (via right mouse-click) that splits the pasted object into its individual components...all editable! Handy if you need to edit something for which you haven't got the program that created it (or some other compatible one).

I can't see myself ever using that feature, but it might do the job you're after.

Here's something I drew in Word...just to show it doesn't only process words:

Hi Tigeree,

I'm writing from my study, where my computer keeps me captive for longer than I should allow.

You're quite safe, as long as the eating never becomes more real than 'supposedly'!

Anyway, the lingering reptile thought is just an aberration, as Bobby tossed that beast into the Vending Machine. Say goodbye to it!

Hi careless25,

That program is blindingly fast!!

It took just 4 seconds to factorize 5465753633455838633829572499188306499 into its 5 distinct prime factors (including a 19-digit prime) and print out its 32 divisors!

I've now linked to it...thanks!

The results are copyable too...in 3 forms of plain text.

Hi Bobby,

76.

This one's just a variation of my pattern for the 6-number daisy that scored 46 in the Number Daisy and Proof? thread. I haven't tried any other options yet.